NB: Tell me a little bit about your career. What was your first professional role?
KC: My first role in entertainment after graduating from UCLA was as an assistant at Columbia Pictures TV in the drama department. However, my first executive role was here in New York, launching FX. We had this beautiful building on Fifth Avenue where we shot all the shows. It was really exciting being a part of a new cable channel launch. I remember literally sitting there in the studio when the light turned on and we were ‘live’ across the country.
Then I left New York and went back to Los Angeles to work with Warner Brothers in the TV comedy department as Vice President of Comedy. It was a wild time in the TV business then. We had 22 sitcoms on the air so it was a great time to be at Warner Brothers. We had both Friends and ER crushing it at NBC and we got to sell series to all the networks.
From there, I went to work for two producers, Bob Greenblatt and David Janollari, who had a deal at Fox to make comedies and dramas. Bob then went to Showtime and I left to go to The WB to help launch their unscripted department. At that time the WB was only focusing on comedies and dramas so it was a great challenge to develop a new genre for the channel.
NB: Was a move to unscripted something you pursued?
KC: No, not at all. At the time I had only worked in scripted TV. I met with the president of the WB, who I had been closely working with during my time at Warner Brothers, he said unscripted was very similar to scripted, you need to tell great stories. It is all about storytelling.
NB: Do you have a favorite unscripted project that you’ve worked on?
KC: Two, but for different reasons. When I bought The Surreal Life I later found out every other network in town passed on it. That said, my gut told me there was something really interesting in the concept of uniting celebrities who would probably never really be in the same room. The tricky part was casting. We had no casting director at the time and it wasn't traditional casting. I ended up having to call MC Hammer, who happened to be at the dentist's office. I called Corey Feldman at home. I loved this series because it was nice to create a show with a unique group of beloved stars. I’d go up to the house where we were shooting 24/7 after work and would just hang out in video village and just watch. Vanilla Ice would be there singing. Tammy Faye Messner (formerly Bakker) would be in her room reading the Bible. It was like nothing I had ever seen on TV.
My other favorite was Beauty and the Geek. The pitch was simple. Can women and men who have little in common actually find a true connection? The show surprised me with how honest and vulnerable the cast became while shooting the show. I remember the Beauty and the Geek trailer got a standing ovation at Upfronts because it wasn’t what the audience thought the show would be about. It was warm and sweet and really funny. It had a John Hughes vibe to it. Ironically, MTV bought both Surreal Life and Beauty and the Geek.
NB: How did you come across Hot in Cleveland at TV Land?
KC: I would say in my 15 years here, there have been a lot of great moments, but Hot in Cleveland sticks out to me. Look, I got to work with Betty White every day for seven years.
The pitch was so quick. I met with Sean Hayes and his executive producer. They were pitching me reality shows and nothing really connected, but I asked what else they had. If you take a pitch but the concept is not a perfect fit, always ask, what else might you have? Sometimes the show they aren’t pitching is the one you end up buying. They said ‘I don't know if you're doing scripted TV, but…’ and they pitched a logline for Hot in Cleveland. The pitch was simple: Three LA women are going to Paris when their flight gets diverted to Cleveland. They were not happy to stay in Cleveland, instead of Paris, until all of the men in town told them they looked like supermodels. It was TV Land's first scripted show, and they were a little nervous before the launch. Multi-cams were a little out of fashion at the time. Well, It exploded out of the gate to huge ratings. Broadcast network presidents were saying, ‘How did that happen?’ ‘How did this happen on TV Land?’ People were quite shocked.
NB: How did you get Betty White to be in the series?
KC: She was so amazing. When closing her deal she asked: ‘Okay, I'll do it. I just ask one thing. Can you drive me to the table read?’ Because she didn't drive. Of course, we said yes.
Casting any show is tricky but comedies are especially hard. You have to be a great actor and then also be really funny. Also, chemistry is key. Hot in Cleveland worked from day one because they all had existing relationships. Betty was only a guest star in the pilot and on tape night, after seeing the explosive reaction from the live audience, I turned to the casting director and said, ‘We need her as a series regular before this series airs.’
NB: What was your first role at Paramount and why did you decide to join?
KC: I got an offer to work at TV Land. The company was really appealing because, first of all, I loved all the Viacom brands. It was also about the opportunity to come to a smaller channel that hadn't really done originals and I had the opportunity to develop brand-defining shows. I knew Viacom was a really great company with great leaders. It had a great energy about it. So many culturally defining brands. I've been here 15 years and I still believe that.
NB: Younger was another scripted hit for TV Land. How did you make that happen?
KC: We decided to move away from close-ended sitcom storytelling to more serialized storytelling to ensure series were built week to week and season to season. I thought who does the best half-hour serialized shows? We wanted our version of Sex and the City. I met with Darren Star and he told me about the book, Younger, where a woman has to lie about her age to get a job after being out of the job market for a while.
It was a clean, simple pitch. The book had been around town and set up at numerous networks. Darren bought into our passion and decided to bring it to TVLand. We were glad he did as we ended up producing seven fantastic seasons.
NB: How do you get talent to agree to make something with us if it might not be their first choice?
KC: I think passion. It is about buying a show to get it on the air. Creators hate being stuck in development with endless other shows. We focus and buy what we want on air. At TV Land, we weren’t on the list for agencies to bring us shows. We didn't care. We chased the people and ideas we wanted. I think it’s actually more productive to be proactive. Creators and talent realize that if you respect their craft and you believe in their show, you will do anything to make their show win.